Transcript: Kaja Kallas on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” March 2, 2025

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The EU’s Role and Purpose: A Peace Project

In a recent interview with Margaret Brennan on "Face the Nation," Kaja Kallas, the European Union’s top diplomat, emphasized the EU’s foundational purpose as a peace project. Established to prevent wars among its member states, the EU has successfully maintained peace within its borders since its inception. Kallas expressed surprise at former President Donald Trump’s claim that the EU was created to "screw the United States," pointing out that the EU’s formation was, in part, encouraged by the U.S. to strengthen transatlantic relations. She underscored the EU’s commitment to cooperation and unity, highlighting its role in fostering stability and prosperity across Europe. Kallas also noted that the EU’s success is evident in its ability to bring together 27 diverse countries under a shared vision of peace and collaboration.

Rising Tensions with the U.S.

Kallas acknowledged growing tensions between the EU and the U.S., particularly under the Trump administration. While the EU and the U.S. have historically been strong allies, recent shifts in U.S. policy have raised concerns. Kallas mentioned the cancellation of a meeting with Secretary of State Rubio, though she downplayed its significance, attributing it to scheduling conflicts. She expressed confidence in the ongoing dialogue between the two sides, emphasizing the importance of transatlantic cooperation in addressing global challenges such as Russia’s aggression, China’s rise, and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. Kallas stressed that unity between the EU and the U.S. is crucial in countering adversarial powers like Russia, which seek to destabilize international order.

Supporting Ukraine and Countering Russia

One of the central themes of the interview was the EU’s unwavering support for Ukraine in the face of Russia’s ongoing invasion. Kallas made it clear that the conflict in Ukraine is not merely a local issue but a global one, with implications for the principles of international law and the rules-based world order. She emphasized that Russia is the sole aggressor, and its actions must be met with sustained political and economic pressure. Kallas highlighted the EU’s efforts to impose sanctions on Russia and froze Russian assets, which she believes should be used to compensate Ukraine for the damages inflicted by the war. She also warned against any attempts to create a false equivalence between Russia and Ukraine, stressing that such narratives only serve to embolden Russia’s aggression.

The Need for European Unity and Defense

Kallas touched on the idea of creating a separate European army, as proposed by some leaders like Emmanuel Macron and Volodymyr Zelenskyy. While she acknowledged the theoretical benefits of such a force, she expressed skepticism about its practicality, noting the complexity of integrating 27 national armies under a single command structure. Instead, she advocated for strengthening existing frameworks, such as NATO, which already provides a cohesive defense structure for Europe. Kallas also addressed the internal challenges of maintaining unity among EU member states, particularly as some countries, like Hungary, have expressed reservations about certain sanctions against Russia. Despite these challenges, she expressed confidence in the EU’s ability to maintain unity and continue pressuring Russia to end the war in Ukraine.

Trade Disputes and Economic Challenges

The interview also delved into the growing trade dispute between the EU and the U.S., particularly with regard to President Trump’s threat to impose a 25% tariff on European imports. Kallas warned that trade wars benefit no one, highlighting the potential for increased prices and reduced consumer confidence. She reiterated the EU’s commitment to avoiding a trade war but made it clear that the EU would take necessary measures to protect its interests if one were imposed. Kallas also raised the issue of economic cooperation, suggesting that joint investments, such as the critical raw materials deal between the U.S. and Ukraine, could strengthen transatlantic ties and create shared economic and security interests.

The Global Challenge of Iran’s Nuclear Program

Finally, Kallas addressed the pressing issue of Iran’s nuclear program and the need for a unified international response. She noted that the EU is preparing for a critical decision in the fall regarding Iran’s refusal to engage in diplomatic talks about its nuclear ambitions. Kallas expressed concern over Iran’s support for Russia’s war in Ukraine and its destabilizing activities in the Middle East. She emphasized the need for a strong, coordinated stance against Iran, particularly in preventing it from developing nuclear weapons. Kallas also called for closer cooperation with the U.S. on this issue, recognizing that a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a significant threat to global security.

In summary, Kallas’ interview highlighted the EU’s commitment to peace, unity, and international cooperation in the face of rising global challenges. From supporting Ukraine to addressing tensions with the U.S., managing trade disputes, and countering threats from Russia and Iran, the EU is navigating a complex geopolitical landscape while advocating for a rules-based world order.

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